Valter Nebiolo and Giuseppe Donini share their thoughts on fighting in Donbas, state of Ukraine's army and Russian money in Europe
After Russia annexed Crimea and instigated a war in Donbas, two Italians volunteered to come to Donbas and try to fight off the Kremlin's aggression.
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In an interview with Ukrainian journalists, Valter Nebiolo and Giuseppe Donini share their thoughts on what forced them to make such an extreme decision, and give their impressions on the state of the Ukrainian army two and a half years into the conflict.
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Passion, lack of experience, friends who have become enemies and how Russian money influences people in Italy - these are the issues Nebiolo and Donini elaborate on.